comments you will not hear at the 02-04-07 wt study (december 15, 2006, pages 25-29)(justice be done).
when in particular will god "cause justice to be done"?.
(luke 18:1; 2 thessalonians 3:13) granted, the coming of "the great day of jehovah" does not depend on our prayers--it will come whether we pray for it or not.
Another enjoyable comments, thanks Blondie!
It is truly awful how they equate leaving the JW's as leaving God. They make all the interpretation and claims, and then say people leave God! Its you we are leaving WTS, and all your unhealthy propaganda, long may people slow down in their service to you and be free of your control.
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garybuss said not one single thing they told him about in his younger years (since the 50's) came true.
it made me think....does anyone know of anything they said that was/is right?????
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In the last days (almost 2000 years!) the love of the greater number will cool off. I think we are witness to that event here as we see many JW's and former JW's love cool off from the WTS as they predicted, though not necesarily from God or Religion.
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someone on another site was asking "what if they are right?
" which made me think about why i know that they are not and i wondered what was your epiphany or road to damascus moment or moments that just made you realise - hey i've been led up the garden path here!.
here was my response but i really think a list of reasons on one thread for easy reference for newbies would be good.
Because after reading the NT through in one go over a few weeks - I confirmed that the docrine that I suspected didnt add up, doesnt and couldn't add up. I began to realise it was another religion providing an interpretation, that was no more true that any others, whilst claiming they had the only channel to God.
I reseached the WTS history and found it to be completely at odds with the claim to be God's mouth piece and his 'faithful and discreet slave'.
In the end what started it was a feeling that turned into deppresion, where my thinking mind couldnt reconcile what I was being taught, this was more subconcious but was strongly exerting itself against trying to still cling to all i'd ever known in my life. It was a harsh reality to finally realise and start my life over. I have to say though that life does go on and i'm becoming more happy, now i've built up new friendships.
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1) 'i cannot face this on my own.
3) one of jesus' disciples once requested: "lord, teach us how to pray.
q5) what does the illustration about the persistent man teach us about our disposition when praying?.
Its funny, in the two illustrations given by Jesus, firstly you have to keep asking because your friend (God) doesnt want to help, and then in the next he's only to happy to give you what you want even in abundance of what you ask.
And yet no where do we see any proof that anyone is recieving the spirit, they give an example of enduring some trial, but these are the same trials being endured by every non JW too! So are they getting the spirit or not???? To me its a way of showing your dependance on something not tangable and it makes you feel you cant cope without it, including the organisation that tells you you need it so badly to survive. My ex claims to have had the help of Holy Spirit, and yet when I asked how she knew and what did it do, all she could say was she got through some difficult times, I pointed out that I have too come through such times and without claiming to have had the spirit.
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start of article.
q1, 2) how can you remain in god's love?.
1) jehovah loves the world of mankind so much that he gave his only-begotten son in order that those exercising faith in him might have everlasting life.
I'm a bit late in replying to this post, but thanks once again for a good comments will we not hear, Blondie.
The point that i'd like to add is where the WTS refers to Jesus words: "Everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27, 28) After reading the NT through in context without the WTS blinkers on, I realised what Jesus was really saying here. Its not that he was saying specifically that we musnt look so as to have a desire but that this is what happens and shows that we need redemption from sin and the grace of God, in other words we can keep the letter of the law but we are still sinners in need of saving. He wasnt heaping more burden on us, but showing us that without him and his sacrifice, we are wasting our time.
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from "what does the bible really teach?
", p. 18 (emphasis mine).
*** bh chap.
As usual what a new comer see's/reads is completely different to reality. The baptism questions are reality - exclusive devotion to the FDS.
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get your mind out of the gutter, not screwing myself that way haha.. for those that don't know, i'm df'd, trying to get reinstated so i can get family/friends back in my life than fade away faster than the only good radio station you can tune in on a long road trip.
basically, i can't keep my mouth shut.
my mom and i were talking the other day.
I personally was not one of those who could continue to live a lie - actually I wasnt aware exactly what was causing my pain and deppresion, All I knew was I had to leave to gain some peace again - it was only after this that I discovered what turmoil my mind was going through to try and make something square go in a round hole. Of course it made no sense and yet our minds were conditioned to accept, and in order to do so we had to stop thinking and reasoning. Anyhow each of us will make our own choices, and decide what is best for our individual circumstances, what is right for me may not be for you. I wish you the best with it though.
Incidently I have noticed that when someone leaves or becomes DF, a relative/friend can actually become more devout despite being 'weak' for many years. I put this down to the mindset they have accumilated all the time they are in and quite possibly fear.
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seeing as i have the wt in front of me today, i thought you'd enjoy the questions from readers from the february 15, 2007 article on the evils and pagan origins on toasting or clinking of glasses.
the article specifically mentions how not everything today that was of pagan origin is necessarily bad, and sites "wedding rings" as being of pagan origin, but it's not viewed like that now.
then, incredibly, they go on and say that while toasting might not be considered a religious practice today, there's "good reason" for christians to avoid it------without giving any valid reason why other than: do as we say:.
How can they use words like 'probably' and then make a ruling on it! I remember a person I know tried to clink a glass with me not long after i'd walked away from the Lies. I still felt awkward and bad about it and explained the reasoning (that I'd been indoctrinated with), well they also came up with the pouring a little wine into each others glasses, to show it wasnt poisened origin. So I looked it up on the Big Bad Web and sure enough, that was the explaination I came across. I also noted they mentioned a 'noted Bible encyclopedia' and failed to mention which one. Why would God's true servants have to quote from a false religious book?
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Control Control Control......
check out this email i got from a jw today: .
the recall of all humans .
the maker of human beings is recalling all units manufactured, regardless of make or year, due to a serious defect in the primary central component, or heart.
My first day back here since the holidays and I find this! Some of your replies had me laughing out loud, most enjoyable post thank you!
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just a little breaking news:.
after several years of a great friendship with diane (previously posted as xena) things have started to really come together recently and i've succumbed to making an honest woman of her (or at least as honest as it's possible to make her.
last night (xmas day) i popped the question and she agreed to marry me (i wonder if she knows what she's let herself in for!!!)..
Nice one!
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